Showing posts with label State issue 2. Show all posts
Showing posts with label State issue 2. Show all posts

Wednesday, September 20, 2017

SCPR: LEANING "NO" ON ISSUE #2, BUT UNCOMFORTABLE BEING ON SIDE OF "BIG PHARMA"



COMMUNITY FORUM HELPFUL IN DECIDING
"YES" OR "NO"
ON
STATE ISSUE #2



VIDEOS

FEATURING

Repository Executive Editor Rich Desrosiers

LWV President Amy Striver-Dreussi

Ohio Alliance of Retired Americans
Dan Fonte

Moderator Ron Ponder

Stark County Citizens
Did the Forum Help Them in Deciding?

By The Stark County Political Report's (SCPR) count, some 75 Stark Countians, more or less, crammed into the McKinley Room of the Stark County District Library—Main Branch, 715 Market Ave., North in Canton last night to hear the "experts" weigh-in on whether or not Ohio's voters should vote yes or no on Statewide Issue #2.

Here is a copy of Issue #2 as it will appear on the November 7, 2018 Ohio ballot:



The event was sponsored by the Canton League of Women Voters and The Repository.

Which way to vote on Issue 2 is about as clear as mud as articulated by Repository executive editor Rich Desrosiers in his opening remarks.



Desrosiers followed Canton League of Women Voters (LWV) president Amy Shriver Dreussi who crisply and clearly explained the primary LWV purpose of being a vehicle for voters to become "informed" voters.



To the SCPR, the most informed person in the room was former Local 94 Plumbers and Pipefitters union official Dan Fonte.

Fonte was present last night as a representative of the American Alliance of Retired Persons who like Desrosiers and The Repository editorial board has been wrestling with which side to come down on in recommending how voters vote on Issue 2.

Fonte says that organization that he is affiliated with has been discussing which way to go in advising its clientele on how to vote on Issue #2.

He says that he individually is leaning in the direction of voting "no" because of the uncertainty of how Issue #2 would be implemented should the issue pass.

As can be seen in his own words in the following video clip, Fonte says he has concerns that Big Pharma will do everything in its power to cause implementation to fail which appears likely to include manipulating the available formulas and thereby forcing price increases for those affected by passage of the issue.



The Stark County Political Report is convinced that Fonte's take is on the mark and accordingly is now leaning towards believing that a "no" vote is likely the best vote for the welfare of any Ohioan who will be affected by Issue #2.

The Stark County Political feels uncomfortable in siding up with Big Pharma on which way to vote.

One of the reasons that Issue #2 might pass is that there are likely many Ohioans who suspect that Big Pharma is all about enhancing the industry's profit level which already is astronomical.

Ballotpedia is in the judgment of the SCPR the best source for citizens to get a handle on what facts are available in the fight over whether or not Issue #2 should pass.

Here is a Ballotpedia graphic on the campaign financing on the issue as of September 15th:


Another interesting Ballotpedia graphic is polling in August showing that at that time Ohio voters were likely to pass the measure:


Given the extremely large 54% undecided vote, the most that the "yes" folks can take from the poll is that at one time they had a leg up on the "no" vote opposition.

The two campaign groups:
  • Ohio Taxpayers for Lower Drug Prices
    • Chris Galloway
  • Ohioans Against the Deceptive Rx Ballot Issue
    • Victoria Zyp
    • Tracy Jones
both had representatives at last night forum.

Here are the opening and closing arguments by each side.

First, Galloway, then (the open), then Zyp and Jones followed by Galloway (the close).




Ron Ponder was the facilitator of the the discussion last evening, and as always effectively moderated the event.

The correct protocol was for audience members to submit written questions so as to avoid duplicate or unseemly questions.

There were a number of times that audience members injected from the floor and Ponder handled the intrusion deftly.

One such interruption was between an "from the audience" person directed at Chris Galloway which could have turned ugly but which Ponder using his experience as a moderator turned into a positive for those attending, to wit:



After the forum concluded and the audience filed out of the SCDL McKinley room,  the SCPR asked three members of the audience whether or not the forum helped them gather information for a decision on how they would vote, to wit:



The SCPR thinks that the "yes" group needs to find a way to convince voters that passage of Issue 2 will not boomerang on voters to their prescription drug pricing detriment a la 
Fonte's fear which The Report shares.

If the "yes" folks cannot assure voters that they have a legal strategy to keep Big Pharma from using passage to reach "unintended by the 'yes' folks adverse to prescription drug users consequences, then as a matter of self-interest, it is hard to see why a voter would take a risk that their "yes" vote could backfire on affected prescription drug users.

The "vote yes" folks clearly have the higher moral ground.

But can they protect their voters and, indeed, all affected Ohioans from the unintended consequences of Issue #2 getting passed?

That is the big question on the Big Pharma seemingly leverage.

Can the "vote yes" advocates convince enough of the 54% undecideds in light of the attendant risks of voting "yes."

It certainly appears that it is unfair that Big Phama has the clout that it does.

But such is strong strain in American politics.

Unfortunately, "might" does often make "right" in the world of power politics.


Tuesday, March 13, 2012

WILL STARK DEMS BE LOOKING TO CAPITALIZE ON MASSIVE STATE ISSUE 2/SB 5 DEFEAT IN TO 2012 VICTORIES?


Less than six months ago, Stark Countians resoundingly defeated State Issue 2/Senate Bill 5 (SB 5) which is generally described as being an "anti-collective bargaining" bill.

Put forward in 2011 by Republican Governor John Kasich and passed through the Ohio General Assembly by the Republican majority in both houses as SB 5, it is being presented as a symbol of Republican antagonism towards organized labor by Democrats statewide and locally.

Issue 2 was primarily aimed at public employee teachers, police and firemen, but did include others.


Stark's vote mirrored the result across all of Ohio.

A question locally is whether or not Stark County's Democratic candidates can stoke the fires of Issue 2's defeat to help them in the 2012 elections.  Police, fire and teachers historically have not been the captive of Democratic candidates as have been most other union members.

The SCPR expects Democratic candidates for countywide office and statehouse races to bring up their Republican opponents position on Issue 2 - pre-election 2011 in an attempt to capitalize on the 2011 vote.

Specific targets are likely to be Republican state Representatives Christina Hagan running to be "retained" in the 50th House District and Kirk Schuring (the 48th).

Undoubtedly, the Dems will be scouring local media reports to dig out votes (by Ohio House incumbents) for or against SB 5 as well as statements by Republican candidates at that and other levels of candidacy expressing an opinion on the bill.

Help appears to be on the way.  As reported on the Cleveland Plain Dealer's website yesterday, (We Are Ohio, labor-backed group that fought SB 5, will remain active in Ohio politics, Joe Guillen), We Are Ohio has remaining some $700,000 of millions ($42 million, to be precise) the group raised for its anti-Issue 2 campaign and now are saying (via Dennis Willard, the group spokesman, a former Akron Beacon Journal Statehouse reporter): "We are here to stay."

And there may be a lightning rod of an issue to draw the group's ire and intense attention in the upcoming 2012 elections.


An effort is under way by Ohioans for Workplace Freedom to place a "Right to Work" Ohio Constitution amendment on November's ballot. 

If the initiative makes it to the ballot, Republicans had better hope that it fares better than a similar initiative that was roundly defeated in 1958.


Otherwise, there could be some unexpected political casualties littering the landscape of Ohio including Stark County come November 7th.

Monday, October 26, 2009

HOW SHOULD STARK COUNTIANS VOTE ON ISSUE 2?




 UPDATE:  COMMENT



 As implied by the primary "for" and "against" positions as set forth above, there are other players in this issue:  the Sierra Club, the U.S. Humane Society and the Ohio Environmental Council.

The primary players?

The Ohio Farm Bureau as being for Issue 2.

The Ohio Farmers Union as being against Issue 2.

The best article the the SCPR has seen that gives a complete picture of the contending forces and personalities can be accessed by CLICKING HERE.  This piece in The Madison Press covers the whole range of interests.

Is this issue important to Stark Countians?

Indeed!

Agriculture remains the largest industry in Stark County.

What is the SCPR take on this issue?

The SCPR is against Issue 2.

Why?

Primarily because its proponents have put into constitutional amendment form what should be a matter for the Ohio General Assembly.  "Constitutionalizing" everything has become a dangerous lawmaking fad these days in Ohio.  Sort of like California.

A second reason is soil and water degradation that occurs from the run-off of waste from the so-called mega farms.

The SCPR recommends a No vote on State Issue #2.